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		<title>Comment on Bruce Willis Is A Ghost by spiroexdeus</title>
		<link>http://bosonquest.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/bruce-willis-is-a-ghost/#comment-22</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I came her circuitously via the Raspberry Pi site, then Twitter.

You&#039;ve pretty much described how I felt when, at age 21, I was finally diagnosed with ADHD and realised that a lot of what I thought was down to poor memory, laziness etc. etc. was actually to do with my ADHD.

It is amazing when this kind of thing happens. I guess the tough bit is what to do with the information afterwards. How much to use it to adapt to the lifestyle of others. How much to inform so that others can adapt to your condition. How much to just leave things as they were. 

I have a number of friends who are ADHD, Dyslexic, Dyspraxic and Aspergers (as individual conditions not all at once - that&#039;d be nuts!) and I have to say that they are some of the most innovative, interesting and creative people I know. I just wish that Psychiatrists had the knowledge thirty years ago that they do now. It may well have made my school life more rewarding. Perhaps being bullied less, better results (I didn&#039;t do too badly - 7Cs at GCSE isn&#039;t a bad result - but I know with the right help I&#039;d have done better), less accusations of laziness from teachers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came her circuitously via the Raspberry Pi site, then Twitter.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve pretty much described how I felt when, at age 21, I was finally diagnosed with ADHD and realised that a lot of what I thought was down to poor memory, laziness etc. etc. was actually to do with my ADHD.</p>
<p>It is amazing when this kind of thing happens. I guess the tough bit is what to do with the information afterwards. How much to use it to adapt to the lifestyle of others. How much to inform so that others can adapt to your condition. How much to just leave things as they were. </p>
<p>I have a number of friends who are ADHD, Dyslexic, Dyspraxic and Aspergers (as individual conditions not all at once &#8211; that&#8217;d be nuts!) and I have to say that they are some of the most innovative, interesting and creative people I know. I just wish that Psychiatrists had the knowledge thirty years ago that they do now. It may well have made my school life more rewarding. Perhaps being bullied less, better results (I didn&#8217;t do too badly &#8211; 7Cs at GCSE isn&#8217;t a bad result &#8211; but I know with the right help I&#8217;d have done better), less accusations of laziness from teachers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bruce Willis Is A Ghost by crosswordbob</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your post!  I agree; spoilers suck.  But that&#039;s why I didn&#039;t mention anywhere the title of the film to which I was referring.  I reckoned those who knew would get the reference, those who didn&#039;t wouldn&#039;t know it was about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post!  I agree; spoilers suck.  But that&#8217;s why I didn&#8217;t mention anywhere the title of the film to which I was referring.  I reckoned those who knew would get the reference, those who didn&#8217;t wouldn&#8217;t know it was about.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bruce Willis Is A Ghost by Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 06:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the blog, but putting a big spoiler in the title is not kosher.

Yes, there are people out there who haven&#039;t seen the movie. And they only get to see it without knowing the ending once. Don&#039;t reduce that number to zero.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the blog, but putting a big spoiler in the title is not kosher.</p>
<p>Yes, there are people out there who haven&#8217;t seen the movie. And they only get to see it without knowing the ending once. Don&#8217;t reduce that number to zero.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bruce Willis Is A Ghost by bet365</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bet365]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 21:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how are you!This was a really fine post!
I come from itlay, I was fortunate to discover your subject in baidu 
Also I get a lot in your website really thanks very much  i will come again]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how are you!This was a really fine post!<br />
I come from itlay, I was fortunate to discover your subject in baidu<br />
Also I get a lot in your website really thanks very much  i will come again</p>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone 4 versus duct tape by crosswordbob</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Whether the model is antenna + hand or antenna1 + hand + antenna2 I&#039;m not going to pretend to know for sure.  Rudimentary testing does seem to support the conjecture that it is sharpest when the gap is bridged.  But my contention is that adding a thin dielectric bettween any hand/antenna interface doesn&#039;t qualitativly affect that interface&#039;s dynamics; so in the model in which your hand bridges two antennae, that is not greatly improved either.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for local properties of my hand, I really don&#039;t know, which is why I would urge people to do their own testing.  I was able to observe degradation with one finger, with and without insulating layer.  But the message of the post is more to make people aware that the physics is not so simple as &quot;stick something non-conductive in and you&#039;re done&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In terms of something more practical, I&#039;m taking a leaf out of Anandtech&#039;s book and looking into what sort of tapes are available.  Kapton tape that they used is said to have high resistance, and dielectric &lt;em&gt;strength&lt;/em&gt;, but their data sheet doesn&#039;t specify dielectric &lt;em&gt;constant&lt;/em&gt;, which is what I believe will be the key to a useful tape-solution.  I have left a query with their tech support, and will post my findings.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Update: The wikipedia article on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_permittivity&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Relative permittivity&lt;/a&gt; (essentially the same as dielectric constant but measured differently) gives Teflon an impressively low permittivity of 2.1, so that&#039;s certainly where I&#039;ll be looking now&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether the model is antenna + hand or antenna1 + hand + antenna2 I&#8217;m not going to pretend to know for sure.  Rudimentary testing does seem to support the conjecture that it is sharpest when the gap is bridged.  But my contention is that adding a thin dielectric bettween any hand/antenna interface doesn&#8217;t qualitativly affect that interface&#8217;s dynamics; so in the model in which your hand bridges two antennae, that is not greatly improved either.</p>
<p>As for local properties of my hand, I really don&#8217;t know, which is why I would urge people to do their own testing.  I was able to observe degradation with one finger, with and without insulating layer.  But the message of the post is more to make people aware that the physics is not so simple as &#8220;stick something non-conductive in and you&#8217;re done&#8221;.</p>
<p>In terms of something more practical, I&#8217;m taking a leaf out of Anandtech&#8217;s book and looking into what sort of tapes are available.  Kapton tape that they used is said to have high resistance, and dielectric <em>strength</em>, but their data sheet doesn&#8217;t specify dielectric <em>constant</em>, which is what I believe will be the key to a useful tape-solution.  I have left a query with their tech support, and will post my findings.</p>
<p>Update: The wikipedia article on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_permittivity" rel="nofollow">Relative permittivity</a> (essentially the same as dielectric constant but measured differently) gives Teflon an impressively low permittivity of 2.1, so that&#8217;s certainly where I&#8217;ll be looking now</p>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone 4 versus duct tape by George</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrong model?  I think your model of this problem as: &quot;antenna + dielectric(tape) + a hand&quot; might be flawed.  I see it as &quot;antenna#1 + dielectric(a hand) + antenna#2&quot; because there are two antennae involved, as shown in a picture here: 
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2
So it&#039;s maybe more about the difference between an oily/sweaty hand bridging the two antennae versus a tape covering a hand?  

Also, in your own tests there may not have been enough difference between your control (your bare hand) and the different tapes you tried.  Are your hands oily/sweaty or very dry? Do you see the signal degrade when you put a finger over the black gap between the two antennae?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong model?  I think your model of this problem as: &#8220;antenna + dielectric(tape) + a hand&#8221; might be flawed.  I see it as &#8220;antenna#1 + dielectric(a hand) + antenna#2&#8243; because there are two antennae involved, as shown in a picture here:<br />
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2" rel="nofollow">http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2</a><br />
So it&#8217;s maybe more about the difference between an oily/sweaty hand bridging the two antennae versus a tape covering a hand?  </p>
<p>Also, in your own tests there may not have been enough difference between your control (your bare hand) and the different tapes you tried.  Are your hands oily/sweaty or very dry? Do you see the signal degrade when you put a finger over the black gap between the two antennae?</p>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone 4 versus duct tape by crosswordbob</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t disagree—if the issue has nothing to do with capacitance, a simple insulator would help.  But the fact is that I &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; test with &lt;em&gt;several&lt;/em&gt; forms of isulator; duct tape, electrical tape, Sellotape and the (pretty thick) plastic sheeting that came off the phone in unboxing.  In the last of these I had two such sheets, so was able to cover both sides of the phone with no part of me touching metal.  No discernable difference in any case.

And to be honest, I&#039;m not convinced that CR  actually &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; test their theory.  They don&#039;t make direct reference to it in the main paragraphs about their testing procedure—which was sketchy at best—they mention it almost as an afterthought, and frankly it looks to me like they were playing for laughs more than offering consumer advice.  I could be wrong, but I have asked them to clarify whether the tape was part of their controlled test and had no response.

I stand by the physics and tests (allbethey amateur; I recommend people do their own tests rather rely on mine).  And I would add that Apple have now had two great opportunities to go with a protective layer—right now I&#039;d expect them to jump at any opportunity to be seen to be doing something—but clearly don&#039;t think it&#039;s a viable solution.  Time may prove me wrong; and if someone knows more about the science, I&#039;d love them to tell me so, since the whole point of the blog is to learn about this stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t disagree—if the issue has nothing to do with capacitance, a simple insulator would help.  But the fact is that I <em>did</em> test with <em>several</em> forms of isulator; duct tape, electrical tape, Sellotape and the (pretty thick) plastic sheeting that came off the phone in unboxing.  In the last of these I had two such sheets, so was able to cover both sides of the phone with no part of me touching metal.  No discernable difference in any case.</p>
<p>And to be honest, I&#8217;m not convinced that CR  actually <em>did</em> test their theory.  They don&#8217;t make direct reference to it in the main paragraphs about their testing procedure—which was sketchy at best—they mention it almost as an afterthought, and frankly it looks to me like they were playing for laughs more than offering consumer advice.  I could be wrong, but I have asked them to clarify whether the tape was part of their controlled test and had no response.</p>
<p>I stand by the physics and tests (allbethey amateur; I recommend people do their own tests rather rely on mine).  And I would add that Apple have now had two great opportunities to go with a protective layer—right now I&#8217;d expect them to jump at any opportunity to be seen to be doing something—but clearly don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a viable solution.  Time may prove me wrong; and if someone knows more about the science, I&#8217;d love them to tell me so, since the whole point of the blog is to learn about this stuff.</p>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone 4 versus duct tape by Greg</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there&#039;s one quote that has stuck with me for years and driven me nuts it&#039;s &quot;Perception is reality.&quot;  Your perception may be your reality but that does not make what you said truly factual.

The issue could be capacitance, true.  It could also be a voltage offset between the antennas with the mere conduction of DC voltage between the antennas from perspiration causing an issue for the &quot;failing&quot; circuit.  It could even be the direct conductivity messing with the effective antenna length.  If it&#039;s either of those than even minimal insulation would provide serious improvement.  

Beyond signal strength, this conductivity could explain why some people experience it and others do not.  People naturally have different amounts of perspiration with differing salt content.

Consumer Reports may have limited knowledge/ability, but at least they tested their hypothesis.  If they found it helped, and others stated it helped, then I can feel just fine in saying it helped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s one quote that has stuck with me for years and driven me nuts it&#8217;s &#8220;Perception is reality.&#8221;  Your perception may be your reality but that does not make what you said truly factual.</p>
<p>The issue could be capacitance, true.  It could also be a voltage offset between the antennas with the mere conduction of DC voltage between the antennas from perspiration causing an issue for the &#8220;failing&#8221; circuit.  It could even be the direct conductivity messing with the effective antenna length.  If it&#8217;s either of those than even minimal insulation would provide serious improvement.  </p>
<p>Beyond signal strength, this conductivity could explain why some people experience it and others do not.  People naturally have different amounts of perspiration with differing salt content.</p>
<p>Consumer Reports may have limited knowledge/ability, but at least they tested their hypothesis.  If they found it helped, and others stated it helped, then I can feel just fine in saying it helped.</p>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone 4 versus duct tape by crosswordbob</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meh—lost the last of that ages ago ;-)

But seriously, that&#039;s a fair comment also, and on a new blog I appreciate getting any reply.  As I re-read, I think I must&#039;ve been a bit tetchy when writing this, and probably felt like laying down the law (s of physics).

So yeah, there should definitely be a clear disclaimer that I might be talking out my hat, and I would genuinely appreciate being shown so; it&#039;s all part of the learning process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh—lost the last of that ages ago <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But seriously, that&#8217;s a fair comment also, and on a new blog I appreciate getting any reply.  As I re-read, I think I must&#8217;ve been a bit tetchy when writing this, and probably felt like laying down the law (s of physics).</p>
<p>So yeah, there should definitely be a clear disclaimer that I might be talking out my hat, and I would genuinely appreciate being shown so; it&#8217;s all part of the learning process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone 4 versus duct tape by AFreshMint</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its cool to see you applying your physics knowledge to the real world (something many physics majors suck at).

But I&#039;d be careful of outright saying something WILL NOT work before you test it properly.

It hurts your credibility]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its cool to see you applying your physics knowledge to the real world (something many physics majors suck at).</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d be careful of outright saying something WILL NOT work before you test it properly.</p>
<p>It hurts your credibility</p>
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